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So, I saw this [link] recently and it shows people in different gear running an obstacle course.  The short version is that it is a firefighter, modern soldier and medieval knight in full plate running the same course.  They basically end up at around roughly the same time in full gear (the modern soldier is actually the slowest but I would argue that normally soldiers drop their heavy backpack before intensive combat).

This led me to a big thought: people in their contemporary time period always think people in the past were stupider.  This is despite one constant throughout recorded history; we're still the same human beings.  The idea that people built armour that was unwieldy and bad to use is really quite silly.  Europeans would have built full plate to be highly maneuverable.  Some of the basic moves by knights, such as raising a sword high above the shoulders, would have required highly flexible armour.  Knights were also known to have fought for many hours, upwards to days of pitched close quarters combat.  If it were so terrible to fight in their armour, they'd have dropped dead in an hour or two.  Instead, they fight basically as long as modern soldiers before tiring out from exhaustion.

Another aspect of this real world test is that it has confirmed some of my personal suspicions about full plate armour.  Namely that I had guessed it to be far better than what most people suggest because I could not fathom that people would progressively add loads and loads more steel plate to protect themselves if they turned them into a lumbering jackass on the battlefield.  The benefit had to outweigh the cost because not only did many European polities use such armour, all the refinements led to greater amounts of plate (and the downfall of ranged weapons) until guns became highly reliable.  Here, I can see that they could move much more quickly than I had anticipated, be much more flexible than I had thought and could even do a few jumps and leaps.  All this with a person who had what would be equivalent to zero training versus a real knight from the middle ages.  Knights would only have been much more amazing.

There's so many things that amaze me about descriptions of what people could do in the past just because they trained everyone from birth with a culture invested in certain skills.  Mongols could shoot on horseback with heavy 120 lbs bows firing hundreds of arrows per battle.  Inuit could throw harpoons one handed while riding a kayak in whale hunts.  There's even the size of armies that people could manage in ancient times.  Song Dynasty was fielding hundreds of thousands of soldiers per battle when we can barely do that today.  Granted, I really wouldn't want to live in a world where there was so much war but to think that logistics or conscription was invented today would be silly.

Anyway, just some random thoughts about a random topic.
Where else would you find people pontificating about topics where no one will actually read them?  The Internets.

Anyway, in Canada there was a huge rage about cultural appropriation after some media personalities put up an award for doing some shameless cultural appropriation and thought it a fantastic thing.  In all the discussion of the topic, which was emotionally charged, what I shall was heavy misunderstanding about what cultural appropriation really means.  The difference is sometimes subtle but really it boils down to: did you make something original and did you understand the context?

One of the more aggravating aspects of cultural appropriation is probably Hollywood.  Take "Ghost in the Shell" and then eliminate all the Japanese characters, then throw in white actors and what do you get?  Nothing approaching the original concept.  Half of the incredibly complex political plot of GitS is about the interaction of Japan in a vague backstory as it backed the American Empire in its wars.  So, what do you get when you wipe out Japanese characters for white ones?  Not the same god damn story.  That's cultural appropriation of a sort where you don't understand the source material, make needless ethnicity changes and then completely ruin the entire plot.

On the other hand, you look at a Disney movie like Moana.  It captures its understanding most when it [spoiler alert] gets to the scene where you watch Samoan sailors sing about exploring the ocean and discovering islands.  The writer understood the culture, was able to explore it and really worked hard to create an original work that fit into the mythology.  In the making of it there were situations where characters were altered to make them fit into the story better.  For instance, originally the character of Maui was bald (like The Rock/Dwayne Johnson) who voices the character but that would have been strange for a demigod in the setting.  So they added hair.  They took the time to understand, appreciate and then create original works.

Canada is in a situation where a lot of the works of the First Nations, Inuit and Metis are simply disrespected outright.  You choose any artwork produced and it might say, at best, "Mohawk pottery" or something idiotic like that.  Why?  Pottery by today's artists from European, Canadian or American origin would definitely have their name printed on the label.  You have clothing companies that steal the artwork of shaman outright without crediting them or respecting copyright.  The writing of non-mainstream characters is far too often, but not always, half-hearted.  Writers who think they're being called racists or culturally appropriating only need look at other white writers who don't face such criticism.  It's hard work to produce original content and it is hard work to understand the culture/context of different situations well enough to write them well.  That's hard work that is rewarded when people praise your work.  If you culturally appropriate, maybe we should simply call it what it is: plagiarism or bad writing.  Then, maybe people will understand why it is bad without the baggage of "oh no I was called racist".
I've not had a chance to do a pencil drawn piece for a very long time and as such my skill hasn't improved in the mean time.  However, I figure I'll do what I can (like doodles) or in this case a journal entry.

Things going on in my life?  Jerbs!  I've been switching jerbs and that's soaked a lot of time and mental energy.  I'm settling into a new position.  It's good and I'm looking for ways to grow in that position in my perpetual journey of self improvement.

What's going on in my art world?  The fourth issue of my comic Tarus Space.  It's still going, albeit slowly, but I'm trying to make sure it is of good quality.  I figure I'll just do a compilation volume when I'm done the current story arc and package an e-version of it onto something like Amazon.  For those who I have yet to spam the comic: tarusspace.com/ behold and despair at the minimal website to host a way to get a print version of the comic.  If you want an electronic version (because you don't want to pay for shipping to wherever in the world you might live) then you can just message me directly and I will figure out a janky way to transfer a file to you in a safe manner.

As is always the case with me, I've yet again been pulled into another website where I draw myself into various pointless political debates on the internets.  I like discussing concepts and I like talking about politics, internet debating on the other hand is usually just an exercise in frustration.  Still, I just can't help myself.

Anyway, always nice to see other dA people active like :iconjailgurdnegative: and I think that's about the dA friends I have that are active still :P  Of course if you are active and I didn't mention you, then it's probably because I didn't get alerted to your stuff for some odd reason.
So, I saw this [link] recently and it shows people in different gear running an obstacle course.  The short version is that it is a firefighter, modern soldier and medieval knight in full plate running the same course.  They basically end up at around roughly the same time in full gear (the modern soldier is actually the slowest but I would argue that normally soldiers drop their heavy backpack before intensive combat).

This led me to a big thought: people in their contemporary time period always think people in the past were stupider.  This is despite one constant throughout recorded history; we're still the same human beings.  The idea that people built armour that was unwieldy and bad to use is really quite silly.  Europeans would have built full plate to be highly maneuverable.  Some of the basic moves by knights, such as raising a sword high above the shoulders, would have required highly flexible armour.  Knights were also known to have fought for many hours, upwards to days of pitched close quarters combat.  If it were so terrible to fight in their armour, they'd have dropped dead in an hour or two.  Instead, they fight basically as long as modern soldiers before tiring out from exhaustion.

Another aspect of this real world test is that it has confirmed some of my personal suspicions about full plate armour.  Namely that I had guessed it to be far better than what most people suggest because I could not fathom that people would progressively add loads and loads more steel plate to protect themselves if they turned them into a lumbering jackass on the battlefield.  The benefit had to outweigh the cost because not only did many European polities use such armour, all the refinements led to greater amounts of plate (and the downfall of ranged weapons) until guns became highly reliable.  Here, I can see that they could move much more quickly than I had anticipated, be much more flexible than I had thought and could even do a few jumps and leaps.  All this with a person who had what would be equivalent to zero training versus a real knight from the middle ages.  Knights would only have been much more amazing.

There's so many things that amaze me about descriptions of what people could do in the past just because they trained everyone from birth with a culture invested in certain skills.  Mongols could shoot on horseback with heavy 120 lbs bows firing hundreds of arrows per battle.  Inuit could throw harpoons one handed while riding a kayak in whale hunts.  There's even the size of armies that people could manage in ancient times.  Song Dynasty was fielding hundreds of thousands of soldiers per battle when we can barely do that today.  Granted, I really wouldn't want to live in a world where there was so much war but to think that logistics or conscription was invented today would be silly.

Anyway, just some random thoughts about a random topic.

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sketch100 Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2015
hey dude, thanks for checking out my stuff! Glad you like the venom one. I'm just starting to add all the stuff that's been building up, and going to just keep adding more and more.
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ultrapunk Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2015
Yeah that's the way to do it.  I've had a glut for a long time and just decided to get myself to draw again by doing lower grade sketchies rather than the more time consuming comic pages or full scenes.
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Crimson-eyed-sermon Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Those comic linearts and shaded panels are f***ing SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICK!!!!.

Thanks for the llama.
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ultrapunk Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2015
Thanks man :D  
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MarcusBinge Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2015
Hey thanks for the *screaming intensifies*
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ultrapunk Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2015
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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EdCrandell-WestWorld Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2015
Thanks for the fave and llama, Alex!
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ultrapunk Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2015
np
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Radical1981 Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2015
Hi Alex!thanks for add my last work!!^^
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ultrapunk Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2015
No problem :D  Love those complex scenes.
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